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Romain672: Change tip 1

2019-04-20T00:19:29Z

Change tip 1

← Phiên bản cũ		Phiên bản lúc 02:19, ngày 20 tháng 4 năm 2019
Dòng 3:		Dòng 3:
	Summary :		Summary :

	1) ~~always~~ have at least 3 possibility to go, ~~and try to have at least~~ 4. Else, since there is some token who limit two adjacent place, you can be stuck easily. And even without these token, he can generally block two third of your possibility.		1) try to have at least 3 possibility to go, if possible 4. Else, since there is some token who limit two adjacent place, you can be stuck easily. And even without these token, he can generally block two third of your possibility.
	~~You can say~~ '~~Yes, but I can take back all my card if I goes to 1~~'~~. Yes that's true, and~~ this ~~have more value when you increase the number of~~ players. But ~~it suggest the others~~ players ~~will~~ play on consequence, ~~which I think will not be the case (~~or ~~not enough)(see variance more down for more informations)~~.		''Please note this tips is not good with only experienced players. But each players need to play on consequence if someone can only play on 1, 2, or 3 different place.''

	2) check if someone else have only 2 or 3 place left : if yes, the creature have a lot of chance to goes on his places, so others place are more free.		2) check if someone else have only 2 or 3 place left : if yes, the creature have a lot of chance to goes on his places, so others place are more free.

Romain672: typo

2019-04-14T23:14:57Z

typo

← Phiên bản cũ		Phiên bản lúc 01:14, ngày 15 tháng 4 năm 2019
Dòng 25:		Dòng 25:

	Now let's get more deep into it, and talk about strategy.		Now let's get more deep into it, and talk about strategy.

	I will suppose the creature is a god, and know everything you can think.		I will suppose the creature is a god, and know everything you can think.

	So you need to add some randomness to what you do, else he will know what you will do : so you need to have X% chance to go on Y, Z% chance to goes on W, etc...		So you need to add some randomness to what you do, else he will know what you will do : so you need to have X% chance to go on Y, Z% chance to goes on W, etc...

	That's why having for all players the possibility to goes on every different place, each turn if possible, is the main goal early on.		That's why having for all players the possibility to goes on every different place, each turn if possible, is the main goal early on.

	Now your probability should depend of lots of criteria :		Now your probability should depend of lots of criteria :


	1) What is the place reacheable by at least one player?		1) What is the place reacheable by at least one player?
Dòng 35:		Dòng 40:
	So using card who limit the action of the creature have more value early on (perhaps not first turn though, it depend since everybody have 5 cards), instead of later on.		So using card who limit the action of the creature have more value early on (perhaps not first turn though, it depend since everybody have 5 cards), instead of later on.
	If one place can't be reached, and you hold that card on your discard pile, resist have way more value than usual.		If one place can't be reached, and you hold that card on your discard pile, resist have way more value than usual.


	2) Where can goes each player?		2) Where can goes each player?
	If one player can only goes on two different place, the creature will be tented to only goes there, so you should go somewhere else. (Except particuliar case, ) if the creature goes somewhere else, it's already a mistake for her (ofc, you need ALL the others place, not the most powerfull one for this to work).		If one player can only goes on two different place, the creature will be tented to only goes there, so you should go somewhere else. (Except particuliar case, ) if the creature goes somewhere else, it's already a mistake for her (ofc, you need ALL the others place, not the most powerfull one for this to work).


	3) Example :		3) Example :

Romain672: -1line

2019-04-14T23:14:12Z

-1line

← Phiên bản cũ		Phiên bản lúc 01:14, ngày 15 tháng 4 năm 2019
Dòng 47:		Dòng 47:
	We will ignore the effect of different place for have a more simple situation to analyse.		We will ignore the effect of different place for have a more simple situation to analyse.

	~~Here, let's say we~~ put ~~same probability~~ for each ~~card for~~ each ~~players~~. ~~And~~ we ~~will add these probability. We obtain :~~		We will put a % for each player on each place. Let's calculate the average % we need on each place : 100*5players/7place=71,4%.

	~~1 : 87% \| 2 : 153% \| 3 : 87% \| 4 : 20% \| 5 : 67% \| 6 : 33% \| 7 : 53% \|\|\| Average~~ : (100*5players/7place) 71,4%

	So the goal is to have the sum of probability of all players to be at 71,4%. We can imagine to decide for the player A to put 71,4% for place 1 and 28,6% for place 2. It's possible, and it's fine if there is no power on the game. But since there are some, we still want some randomness for each player.		So the goal is to have the sum of probability of all players to be at 71,4%. We can imagine to decide for the player A to put 71,4% for place 1 and 28,6% for place 2. It's possible, and it's fine if there is no power on the game. But since there are some, we still want some randomness for each player.

Romain672: Advanced tips

2019-04-14T16:24:08Z

Advanced tips

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-(hi, would like someone for correct my fault, ty :D)
+(hi, would like someone for correct my fault even if it's just on the summary part, ty :D)
 Summary :
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 As the creature, it's possible too to putting the main token on 2, that way, if someone goes for 1, it will just copy a bad one. Or to goes for 4.
 Going for 4 let you sometimes copy the adjactent 5 with a specific card.

Romain672: More introduction

2019-04-14T14:36:49Z

More introduction

← Phiên bản cũ		Phiên bản lúc 16:36, ngày 14 tháng 4 năm 2019
Dòng 10:		Dòng 10:
	3) manage your 1 : you should generally only goes for 1 if you have 3 will left and 4/5 cards (for keeping 3/4 card with 1 will if the creature play his main token), or if you have 1 will left.		3) manage your 1 : you should generally only goes for 1 if you have 3 will left and 4/5 cards (for keeping 3/4 card with 1 will if the creature play his main token), or if you have 1 will left.
	If you want to go for it on others case, it's an all in move. You should check before if someone else (or 2 players with many players) can goes there instead of you with less risk. And if it's usefull. And then decide : if yes, you should let them go there if they want, and if not, you have the possibility to all-in. Doesn't mean you should goes for it, but it's a possibility.		If you want to go for it on others case, it's an all in move. You should check before if someone else (or 2 players with many players) can goes there instead of you with less risk. And if it's usefull. And then decide : if yes, you should let them go there if they want, and if not, you have the possibility to all-in. Doesn't mean you should goes for it, but it's a possibility.

			4) As the creature if you want to block 1+another place, you should generally put your main token on 1 since it remove 2 will instead of 1.

			5) For early game, 5 is the best power. So the creature have more chance to go there. So 1 is good if it can copy 5. So the creature can goes on 1. So doing 3 can be good for being able to try a 1 or 5 without risk (or both).
			Problem with 4 is the fairly low effect of the place early on, and the fact there is some token who can be used on both 4+5 and the creature token on 1. So going for 4 can have some side bad effect.
			Going for 2 let you some tempo for keep all your card second turn, which can be good.
			As the creature, it's possible too to putting the main token on 2, that way, if someone goes for 1, it will just copy a bad one. Or to goes for 4.
			Going for 4 let you sometimes copy the adjactent 5 with a specific card.

Romain672: typo

2019-04-14T14:29:43Z

typo

← Phiên bản cũ		Phiên bản lúc 16:29, ngày 14 tháng 4 năm 2019
Dòng 2:		Dòng 2:

	Summary :		Summary :
	- always have at least 3 possibility to go, and try to have at least 4. Else, since there is some token who limit two adjacent place, you can be stuck easily. And even without these token, he can generally block two third of your possibility.
			1) always have at least 3 possibility to go, and try to have at least 4. Else, since there is some token who limit two adjacent place, you can be stuck easily. And even without these token, he can generally block two third of your possibility.
	You can say 'Yes, but I can take back all my card if I goes to 1'. Yes that's true, and this have more value when you increase the number of players. But it suggest the others players will play on consequence, which I think will not be the case (or not enough)(see variance more down for more informations).		You can say 'Yes, but I can take back all my card if I goes to 1'. Yes that's true, and this have more value when you increase the number of players. But it suggest the others players will play on consequence, which I think will not be the case (or not enough)(see variance more down for more informations).
	- check if someone else have only 2 or 3 place left : if yes, the creature have a lot of chance to goes on his places, so others place are more free.
	- manage your 1 : you should generally only goes for 1 if you have 3 will left and 4/5 cards (for keeping 3/4 card with 1 will if the creature play his main token), or if you have 1 will left.		2) check if someone else have only 2 or 3 place left : if yes, the creature have a lot of chance to goes on his places, so others place are more free.

			3) manage your 1 : you should generally only goes for 1 if you have 3 will left and 4/5 cards (for keeping 3/4 card with 1 will if the creature play his main token), or if you have 1 will left.
	If you want to go for it on others case, it's an all in move. You should check before if someone else (or 2 players with many players) can goes there instead of you with less risk. And if it's usefull. And then decide : if yes, you should let them go there if they want, and if not, you have the possibility to all-in. Doesn't mean you should goes for it, but it's a possibility.		If you want to go for it on others case, it's an all in move. You should check before if someone else (or 2 players with many players) can goes there instead of you with less risk. And if it's usefull. And then decide : if yes, you should let them go there if they want, and if not, you have the possibility to all-in. Doesn't mean you should goes for it, but it's a possibility.

Romain672: Introduction

2019-04-14T14:28:13Z

Introduction

Trang mới

(hi, would like someone for correct my fault, ty :D)

Summary :
- always have at least 3 possibility to go, and try to have at least 4. Else, since there is some token who limit two adjacent place, you can be stuck easily. And even without these token, he can generally block two third of your possibility.
You can say 'Yes, but I can take back all my card if I goes to 1'. Yes that's true, and this have more value when you increase the number of players. But it suggest the others players will play on consequence, which I think will not be the case (or not enough)(see variance more down for more informations).
- check if someone else have only 2 or 3 place left : if yes, the creature have a lot of chance to goes on his places, so others place are more free.
- manage your 1 : you should generally only goes for 1 if you have 3 will left and 4/5 cards (for keeping 3/4 card with 1 will if the creature play his main token), or if you have 1 will left.
If you want to go for it on others case, it's an all in move. You should check before if someone else (or 2 players with many players) can goes there instead of you with less risk. And if it's usefull. And then decide : if yes, you should let them go there if they want, and if not, you have the possibility to all-in. Doesn't mean you should goes for it, but it's a possibility.